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~~~ continues to overflow. Councilman F3ryant went on to say the; north end of Town is nearing sixty years aid attd l think. it is time to address curb issues in the north end and in the older part of Town. How :much are you talking about camering, are you talking about going up in tl~e new mains and camera to try to determine which lateral is bringing in the most water? President Warthen <ulswered yes. Paul Bryant asked if the map showed the storm sewers in the area to get the surface water away- President Warthen answered it did not. Paul Bryant went on to say the Tawn owes the people of Mooresville, it is the Town's responsibility to get rid of the surface water off the streets and ground. The Tawn has built the streets up, routed out the planting strips, giaveled the planting ships, and all is happening is we're putting a million gallons of water every time it rains and crying about this water getting into the sewer system. Millions of dallars have been spent since 1've been in Mooresville and everything is done except address the real issue_ Councilman Clark said what Paul. is saying is that our stone sewers are iaot adequate, they are not carrying the water. Paul IiryanC said he had pictures he took in :March 2003 of about twenty-nine storm sewers and every one of them stopped solid, totally solid. Some of them had tiny slits that five leaves would stop up anal gravel from the street. He said just drive clang the streets after a rain, you will see puddles everywhere. Nobody is addressing the real. issue is we need to get the surface water off the streets and the ground. Councilman Bryant asked once we get the cameras in there and determine that .lateral is leaking what are the options? President Worthen answered that we try to determine if the the has collapsed, if the file is bad, or just butted together and leaking. President Worthen said our wastewater ordinance; states nothing other than sanitary water out of the house can be dumped into the sewer. Attorney Currens said. if the people had a perimeter drain or if they have their gutters going rota that, Chey are required to disconnect them, if their :field file is broken they are required to fix that. Councilman Bryant asked if that area had been smoke tested when the smoked the old part of Town. Joe Beikman answered the last titaie that area was smoke tested was probably in 1.978. Councilman Bryant said that any violations should have been disconnected and 1 would be in favor of going back to see if those violations have been disconnected and what if the tale is deteriorating, would you be willing to tell thetxi they have to run a new lateral? Councilman Bryant asked Joe Beikman iF he still had those records from 197$ in order to check this out. Joe Beikman said he thought things had been corrected except for perimeter drains on bi-levels. Councilman Bryant asked if this was unfixable. Toe Beikm~ul answered a sunk pump would have to be put itl and Councilman Bryant said well that would be :far cheaper than them running a new lateral.. Do you have any idea of the expense an cazt~era imaging? President Worthen said chat is why he asked Jae to get some prices together. Carol Weasler asked the council. what percentage they thought was a lateral problem and was a few homes enough to cause the south end of Bishop Street to have sewer come up in their homes. Councilman Clark answered if surface water is going in and the system has been reduced, then there is going to be a back up of sewer. Ross Holloway conu~tented that a leaking lateral or perimeter drains or downspouts c~u~ have a huge ai':fect. It only takes four homes running full thru a four- inch lateral to overwhelm and eight- inch line and you add to that surface water, you have a huge problem. If there were proper storm sewers it would be less likely to overflow. Cracked laterals arc less of an issue, because usually it is a seepage issue and not a flow. 1 think if there were pa'oper stornl sewers, people would be more likely to have their downspouts an top of the ground and to have sunk pumps and you would be less likely to have infiltration problems from a cracked tile_ Jae Neal, Netil & Son Plumbing, spoke saying he had put two pumps an a house and one wouldn't shut off, so he went out there and took the inspection plate off the top the perimeter drain dumped into this lift station. Thc;re was afour-inch stream coming into that pump. The next maixa_ing aC had quit raining and nothing was going thru the pump. The laterals, sunk pumps, perimeter drains, and downspouts going into the lines, people can't do this, but it is done. This causes the treatment plant problems. Coancilrnari Bryant said he wanted a storm sewer reap, prices on the camera, and records from 1978. Joe T3cikman said he did not have a map of storm sewers just r~~lnholes and catch basins. Joe Beikman asked the council to address the line on St. Rd. 267. He said the line is damaged and the manholes wire falling apart along 267 .from. the old IGA up to Northridge Drive. I-le said when you look at the problem on Bishop Street, it does not always come from that area, when the plant starts backing up it backs up. Joe said it used to take cone--.inch rain to cause a problem, now it likes athree-inch rain to cause problems, so some progz-ess has been made. He said there are f fty-six be-levels in the north end that has perimeter drains going into the sewer. And a lot of them still don't have gutters on the house. Councilman Bryant said if this is the problem, do you believe a major portion of these have not been corrected, (and Joe said he would guarantee it),