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My opinion was to go with a blanket for the entire community. Councilman Bryant said the intent was not to single out Dueleys or Hummers. Council President Worthen told Mr. Arp the council had worked with several different ordinances from other towns and cities and with Joe Beikman, Street Superintendent, and Police Chief Viles. He also told Mr. Arp he had kind of argued with Councilman Bryant about the width because he thought he might like to buy a Dueley if he could find one at o decent price. His comment back to me was do you think that extra foot creates a problem, so I took my old brown truck and parked it 12 inches away from the curb, which is legal, then I got in another vehicle and drove around the block and came back and it did create a problem so I had to agree. Actually you could be 108 inches. Mr. Arp said so, what can we do about this. Councilman Worthen said provisions were made for pick up anal delivery services and he thinks same downtown merchants provide some off street parking. Councilman Dolen said he thought the ordinance was a good ordinance. Councilman Worthen said he still felt comfortable with the width. Councilman Bryant said he understood the argument and up until five or ten years ago most people didn't drive Dueleys as their primary vehicle, but times are changing. We had to come up with dimensions, we did research, anal I personally called at least four other towns and they all had ordinances that dealt with this issue. I called Plainfield, Zionsville, and others. Mr. Arp said why do we have to be like them. Attorney Currens said out streets were in need of repair and you have to look at what is safe for our Town, we saw a need. This was discussed over a period of time before the ordinance was ready for passage. Mr. Arp asked if there was any way they were going to take a look at the ordinance and see what could be done? Councilman Bryant and Councilman Dolen bath said this was not their intention. Mr. Arp asked what the next step would be. Attorney Currens said this was a valid ordinance and these councilmen passed it on valid reasons and unless Mr. Arp could convince them differently he did not think they were going to overturn it. Mr. Arp said how was he going to convince them, none owned a Dueley and do they live on a town street. Mr. Currens answered all of them live on a town street. Councilman Worthen said the response he has had on this ordinance has been more positive than negative. Before he would commit to addressing a change in the ordinance he would need mare negative response. Mr. Arp said if he brings negative response would he look at re-addressing the ordinance? Councilman Worthen said he would, Councilman Bryant said he wouldn't because a lot of time and research was done and his mind was set the ordinance should stay the way it is. Councilman Shields said he believed this was for the greatest goad for the number of people in Town. You can't change ar alter for a small amount of people because you have to look at the biggest picture for the whole town. Mr. Arp said he guessed he would go to the next step. Legal; Attorney Currens had a draft of the Weight Ordinance for the council to review. The next step on this would be comments and police and street departments do a study. Mr. Currens announced that Mr. Turner had sued the Town last week for not giving him a permit and went on to say he didn't feel this suit had any validity. The issue brought up in the suit pertained to why a permit wasn't granted. First, this board does not grant those permits, secondly Mr. Beikman said the permit was not filled out properly, and thirdly it ignored the unsafe building violation that would have required far more than was set out in the permit. We will respond to the suit. Councilman Bryant asked about a date that was set, which he thought was around November 22nd. He asked Attorney Currens if that was for the imminent domain or his suit against us. Attorney Currens replied he thought that date was probably on the injunctive relief. We did have a date earlier for apre-trial conference and we have a date in March 2005 set for a hearing on the condemnation. I have been with the other attorney and told him to get his things together so we can finish the discovery; I've been on him to do that. Then when we meet with the judge in December, if we can narrow the issues maybe we can get a quicker date that March. We are ready we're just waiting on them. We are pushing as quick as we can. ~~